“What if we walked out of our homes every day with open-mindedness and curiosity?” — Jerome Deroy
In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan revisit a memorable story from their conversation with Joe Diaz of AFAR Media. A blind travel writer arrives in unfamiliar places with one simple strategy: find an elbow to hold on to. And every time, someone is there to help.
That story sparks a conversation about curiosity, trust, and the power of human connection. Julienne shares a recent encounter on a train in Austria that illustrates how a small act of kindness can completely shift someone’s experience.
Together, Jerome and Julienne explore what happens when we approach others with openness rather than assumptions—and how the lessons we learn while traveling can change the way we show up in our own communities.
You’ll Hear
- Why curiosity and open-mindedness are essential to meaningful travel—and everyday life.
- How unexpected encounters can challenge our assumptions about others.
- The ripple effect of a simple act of kindness.
- Why listening, asking for help, and trusting others can open doors to deeper connections.
- How to bring the spirit of adventure and discovery into familiar surroundings.
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